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A shed delivery can look like “back it in and drop it” until you’re staring at a West Virginia slope with a truckload of blocks and no margin for error. We’re joined by Dustin Schwartz from DR Transport and the Shed Movers R Us YouTube channel to tell the real story behind shed hauling, from learning to back a trailer under pressure to handling the unglamorous parts of the job that never make it onto a brochure. 

Dustin walks us through his path from sawmill work and logging to joining a family shed lot operation, then stepping out on his own. We talk about what it takes to start a shed moving business the paperwork, DOT and MC authority, and the reality of commercial insurance when you’re under 25 and trying to get established. The takeaway is simple but hard earned: you can build a solid operation if you keep learning and keep showing up, even when the numbers feel stacked against you. 

Then we shift into the creator side. Dustin shares how he starts posting short form videos with nothing but an iPhone and a basic mount, how a “small” viral clip pushes him into YouTube long form, and why editing time becomes the biggest bottleneck. We get specific about action cameras, low light performance, wireless mics, and how viewer feedback forces better production. If you care about shed industry marketing, contractor content, and building customer trust online, this one is packed with real-world insight. 

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INTRO

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Welcome And Ways To Connect

Cord

Welcome back to another episode of the Shed Geek Podcast. I am here on another beautiful sunny day in Metropolis, Illinois. It's been such a great week here, uh kind of continuing a theme of um the media side of the business right now, the creator side, the content side. If you listened last week, you would have heard Jeremy Yoder, Pro Shed Builder. And today, uh again, I have uh a person who is putting out great content, Mr. Dustin Schwartz, Shed Movers R Us, is his uh YouTube page. So, go check him out. This is going to be um another really informative episode, I think, about just um breaking down some of these barriers uh and encouraging people to you know just jump in front of that camera and try it out. But before we get rolling, just a couple of quick things so you know how to stay plugged in with us. Uh, of course, by now you know the phone number 618-309-3648. That is Shannon's phone number. Give him a ring anytime. Uh, email info@ shedgeek.com, contact forms as well at www.shedgeek.com. Uh the Facebook pages, the Shed Sales Professionals group. Of course, Dustin is a member of the Shed Haulers group. So, go and check that out as well if you're on the hauling side. Um and then for anyone listening uh out there who has uh friends, acquaintance, acquaintances, family members in the playing community, or maybe you just prefer to listen on a call in line. That number is 330-997-3055. That's a great resource uh for our friends in the playing community to be able to listen to the ChedGeek podcast.

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Cord

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Meet Dustin Schwartz

Cord

So having said those things, uh, as I kind of teased there at the beginning, today I am joined by Mr. Dustin Schwartz of DR Transport Shed Movers R Us YouTube page coming out of the eastern, east central Ohio area. Um and I'm just so happy to continue this series on media and content and how to capture video and build trust with people through a screen uh and start to have those relationships. So Dustin, uh man, introduce yourself. How did you get into the shed industry as a whole? Shed moving, uh, and now all the way to uh video and and and YouTube pages.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah.

From Sawmill Work To Logging

Dustin Schwartz

Um yeah, I the video side of things is definitely something I never seen myself getting into. But um the shed hauling that started back um 2018 is when I started hauling sheds.

Cord

Almost a decade now.

Dustin Schwartz

Getting close. Um and that's also something I would have never seen myself doing. It's not something I was looking into getting into or anything like that. Um previously my job was uh working at a sawmill. I worked at a sawmill from as soon as I was out of school and operating heavy equipment. So, the shed I mean running the shed trailers and mules and stuff, it it it was something that I it didn't take me too long to get used to running it, I guess. I mean it's obviously different than what I was doing, but heavy equipment. I was used to heavy equipment. I was around heavy equipment a lot um from a young age, so um get it. I mean I worked I worked at the sawmill for seven years and I kind of just basically got tired of what I was doing. The uh the environment I was in. So, I actually quit quit that job. Trying to think of what year it was. I can't rem remember the year, but I went and worked for a company that my dad was at. Um it was a tire, like a tire distributing company where it was delivering, it was a delivery job where I had to go load up tires and deliver them and to various you know different locations.

Cord

Did you get your CDL to do that or no?

Dustin Schwartz

No. The vehicle that I was running was like a box van, so it didn't require a CDL. Um I got into that. I did not stay there very long because um when I when I was talking to the guys here at the tower place, they I told them, look, I'll quit my job where I'm at now if I can if you can say that you'll pay me what I'm making or better. And they said they could. Um so I uh how was it? It was probably about six months into it that my boss at the time he uh he said that he didn't really look into the what it's gonna take to insure me. Because I was under the age of 25, I had some speeding tickets, and he just hired me and didn't like I guess look into that. And he was paying a boatload of money for in just to insure me in a commercial vehicle. So, he said what he's gonna have to do is take that out of my paycheck, and obviously that was gonna drop me way down to below where I was previously. So, and I mean I don't know. I was never I shouldn't say I was never I was kind of upset to be honest.

Cord

Yeah, I mean that's a heck of I mean, number one, that has to break some labor laws to tell somebody I'm gonna take the cost of your insurance out of your paycheck. I mean, that's a strong stance to try to do it.

Dustin Schwartz

I mean, yeah, I get it was a lot. Like I was I was young, I had a I had a little sports car and I you know I drove fast, I was a young kid, and got had some speeding tickets. That's all tickets, that's all it takes. If you're a commercial driving, it's even if you don't have a CDO, it it's insurance is a big thing. Yeah. So, um I quit that without anything lined up. I just literally quit. And I was probably out of work for I don't know how long it was, honestly, probably a couple of weeks. And then um I actually went back to the sawmill that I quit, and that was that was a little bit of a hard thing to do because my boss, you know, before I quit, he was trying to, you know, convince me to stay, and then I had to go down there with my head down. I have my job back, but of course they had already filled my position, and he could he had he said he wish he wishes he could get me back, but he can't he can't take the job away from the other guy. So, there I was, um, no job. And then the guy, my boss at the sawmill, knew of a guy that was had a logging company and was work looking for another driver, an Amish uh an Amish guy that owned this logging crew. He was looking for a driver and an equipment operator, so um reached out to him and started working for him. And uh I think I worked there for maybe maybe a year.

Cord

He uh now surely you had you had to do your CDL for those types of uh logging trucks.

Dustin Schwartz

This driving was driving literally just driving him around, driving him to and from work, like driving the crew. So, he had he had another Amish kid working for him that was a tree cutter, and then he had another guy that wasn't Amish that was driving him currently. But he wanted another guy for operating like skitter and um the knuckle booms and stuff like that, loading trucks, and then I was also um the one driver would usually drive in the morning and then I would drive home. So um, yeah, still didn't have my CDL. I didn't get my CDL honestly till a lot later, later on in the story. But um the that was a salary-based pay where it was um paid, you know, whether we were working or whether we weren't. And I thought I was gonna love that because I was like, well, in the logging industry, it really, you know, the weather really affects the when you can work and when you can't. But I was surprised. This guy, we worked. It didn't matter if it was mud or snow or ice, we work. And I was like, I don't know. I kind of I definitely my preference of payment if I'm working for someone is is like uh commission based or production. Like when I worked at the meal, I got paid off production of what we cut at the SAM meal. Um, so salary pay was something that I was not used to. I mean, it was alright, but it was like the same check every week.

Cord

Like, I don't know, no matter how much you busted it, you know.

Dustin Schwartz

Did not matter. You could work, you know, 40 hours a week or you could work 60 hours a week. It was it was honestly the same. Um but then uh the following winter. So, I started there, I think in the fall, and then I worked actually probably worked there for a little bit over a year, and then that winter things got real slow, and he basically had to let me go. I was the last guy he hired, and he said he just can't he can't afford to keep paying everybody. So that was like a surprise. I was just all of this all of a sudden I was without a job again.

Cord

And uh just as you had settled into something that was, you know, yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, it was so I I've been in the logging slash sawmill business uh quite a bit in my early years. Um and I enjoyed, I mean I enjoyed working in the woods and stuff operating. But um yeah, that came to an end. Um and I think this happened like in January of 2018 or the last part of 2017, and I think I was probably without a work without work for probably about a month. Um I didn't have anything lined up and didn't know what I was gonna do. And then my father-in-law, he actually was in the shed business. He had, I mean, he's been in the shed business for years. He was um from well, he's from around here in Ohio, but they moved to Alabama.

Cord

Was he building or or selling or some of some of everything?

Dustin Schwartz

Building and delivering um his own sheds. I don't know too much of that story, so I'm not gonna get too much into that, but I know he's been in the or their family's been in the shed business for a long time.

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Joining The Family Shed Business

Dustin Schwartz

So, I what's funny is I the way I met my wife and uh like her dad was at the way I met her dad was at the sawmill. He was he was truck driving at the time and he would haul lumber out of there.

Cord

Right.

Dustin Schwartz

I had no idea. So, I was talking to this girl, and uh I met her on Facebook, and I had no idea that this guy that was hauling lumber out of here was her dad. I was loading him up every day.

Cord

And uh at least you knew you got a good work ethic, I guess. You know?

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, yeah. He uh yeah, he would come in there every day. I would load him up with lumber and you know chit-chat with him, and he'd go off and come back the next day. And finally, I seen this picture on um, well, she wasn't even my girlfriend at the time. We were just talking. Yeah, and uh I seen this picture of on her Facebook with this guy, and I was like, wait, that's my driver. This is your dad. So, um I actually talked to talked to his or her dad that like the next day and told her, Hey, I didn't know your Virgin uh my wife's name is Regina, yeah, didn't know that's that that's your daughter. But um, anyways, skipping forward to I don't know how many years, probably a couple years later, um, he got into the shed business around here. He started up a couple of shed lots, and uh his wife and um my wife, my girlfriend at the time, they were the sales ladies there, they would sell, and then he had it he had bought a shed rig and he was doing all the deliveries. So, he had yeah, he had a pretty good thing going on there. And um when I was without work, he actually I think he was the one that reached out to me and just asked if I'd be into hauling sheds, and I was like, man, I I don't know, that seems kind of intimidating.

Cord

Yeah, yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

If you don't have the right guns, yeah, right. Not something I would have seen myself doing, but um he uh I ended up saying yes because I was like, I mean, I don't have anything else lined up, so um, and I was like, this is a really good opportunity for me as far as getting involved with the family business that they got going on here, and I got to see my girlfriend, you know, whenever I'd show you at work, and yeah, she would sell and I would deliver. But

A Brutal First Delivery In West Virginia

Dustin Schwartz

um, I remember my first delivery that I went with. Um I was just riding along basically. And this delivery, this was in West Virginia. And this, I mean, for my first delivery, this this was one of the worst ones I could have had. Like, I mean, I was not the one in charge, I was not the one driving, right? But I'm talking this building that where these people wanted this building set was just on a good old West Virginia slope.

Cord

Right.

Dustin Schwartz

And we got like we carried blocks on the truck at that time, and we used every block on the truck just to get it level. I don't even know if we got it level, like every block, and then we had to run to Lowe's and get a whole nother pallet of block to finish the block job. And I was like, my what am I getting myself into?

Cord

Makes you wish you would have had a camera strapped to your chest, I bet.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, I didn't know what I was getting myself into there, but it's part of West Virginia deliveries, is like it's a whole different ball game. I mean, I know it's not just West Virginia, you got Kentucky and places like that too, that are pretty hilly.

Cord

Yeah, but the whole state of West Virginia is that way.

Dustin Schwartz

It's it really is. A lot of blocks that I've slung over the over the last eight years. But um we got that one set. This was probably about February, so it was it was really slow season, so it was kind of a good time to start, kind of get me to get me the feel for things, and I wasn't jumping into it like full blast. But he uh I went with him on a on a couple more deliveries, and I think my father-in-law is pretty big on the best way to learn is just put you in the truck and figure it out, right? Because that's exactly what happened. Um, I went with maybe on, I don't know, it I honestly don't remember how many, but it when I think back, it was like I feel like it was like three deliveries that I went with him on.

Cord

Right.

Dustin Schwartz

And then um went with him on an inventory run. We did some inventory, he showed me kind of the ropes, you know, how to what to do and how to set buildings up. Yep. And then he sent me out on my first run all by myself. And I had on I'd never drove the mule yet, never um really hadn't operated the trailer just a ton. He showed me kind of what the buttons do. But I went up, I remember my first load. I went up after it. It was it was uh I think I was trying to get a 40 foot load, which that trailer was capable of hauling 40 feet, but it was a 34 foot trailer, so you had like six foot of overhang total, right? And I remember. We're trying to figure out how in the world to stretch all this stuff out to make these buildings fit. I got the first building on and I couldn't figure out how to get the front extension to go up. And I was like, there's no way I can get two 20-footers on here. And I remember I almost lost my build, lost the building over the front end. I had it pushed up so far. And I could not figure out how to get the front extension out because there's different button combinations that you got to hit. And I called him and told him, and I was I was like, what am I supposed to do? And he kind of ran me through like which buttons to hit. And it's kind of hard to explain that over the phone, even for me. Yeah, I can hit those buttons without even looking at them. Yeah. But if somebody asked me which button to hit, and I'm like, uh can't remember.

Cord

It's the one that feels right.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, so he tried to he tried to explain that to me. And I guess I finally got it figured out because I got the load loaded up and um took off down the road. And one of my first oversized, I did haul another load with him that he loaded for me, I guess. And that that was a load of 12 wides. And I remember just driving down the road with I mean gripping the steering wheel and looking in my mirrors, just constantly thinking I'm gonna hit something. Like this is insane.

Cord

It sounds to me like he was testing the industriousness and the fortitude of the young man who wanted to, you know, date and potentially marry his daughter.

Dustin Schwartz

That could be that could be. I it really is a good way to learn though, because you can try and teach a new person your tricks and everything, but every everybody kind of has their own little bit of different ways that they do things. I mean, and it was a good way for me to learn because I mean, I think it was, it feels like it was. At the time, I it scared the daylight out of me. But yeah, right. Um, I got over it. Um, so I and I still at this point had never ran the mule. Like this mule just stayed on the truck. Um I mean my first couple of loads were um inventory loads. Like I said, it was winter time, wasn't a whole lot to do delivery-wise.

Cord

You could just drop them in the yeah, as long as you line the truck, yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

Drop them, drop them and go. And um, but he had never showed me how to run the meal. All the deliveries we had done at this, you know, up to this point uh with him were just trailer drops. So, um the meal kind of intimidated me, I guess. I didn't it was and it's just this little machine, but it was like back then it was before that. Never ran anything like it.

Cord

You know, whenever they were, you know, still a little hard to balance and still a little, yeah, right, right, yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

It was a little mule four but..

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Dustin Schwartz

I remember the first uh actual delivery that I had. And I should mention too, up until this point, I had never actually pulled, had much experience pulling trailers. Like I ran equipment, all that good stuff, but like pulling a trailer, backing a trailer was totally new. Like my first delivery showed it too. Because and it I you could not have asked for an easier first delivery. Like it was out of business in a gravel parking lot wide open, and all he wanted me to do was back it beside the dumpster and drop it. And I remember just trying to make it look like I was like I knew what I was doing, right? I tried so hard. Instead of being honest, be like, hey, this is my first delivery. I didn't I didn't do that. I was I just played it off as cool as I could.

Cord

And the uh the ultimate thing that guys never want to own up to, which is this is my first time back in a trailer, you know.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, I mean, it wasn't my first time, but it probably looked like it was. Because I had to try it probably about four or five different times to get that thing lined up.

Cord

Oh man.

Dustin Schwartz

But it was definitely it was way out of my comfort zone. Um but finally got it backed up backed up there, dropped it off. And I remember here probably about a year ago, I actually drove past that spot, and that building was still sitting there and brought back tons of memories. How far you can go? I think that you know how far you can go. Yep. Um, I didn't know if I I'm not sure. I mean, I could have used my sidewalk wheels, but I thought that would be too obvious that I don't know how to back a trailer up in this wide open lot.

Cord

Right.

Dustin Schwartz

So, I just pulled up a couple four or five times and finally got it lined up.

Buying The Rig And Paying For Insurance

Cord

So, and uh so you're working kind of in the family business then, and you are you know obviously getting your feet under you. Um so then how does that morph into you know a full on uh was DNR transport already a thing at that point? Or this is how does that morph into a full operation for yourself? And then obviously now I would say uh you know, as of today, you probably have you're probably putting out the most shed hauling content, at least long form shed hauling content, um, probably in the country at this moment, at least by my approximation. Um so how do you how do you go from feeling real uncomfortable but you know, doing the whole four or five point pull it pull it up and back it up to kind of being, you know, uh working for yourself and uh confidently creating these videos?

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, so um it's it was kind of a I was working for him, you know. I was just getting, I can't remember, I think I was getting convention commission based off of what the truck was making or percentage based.

Cord

Right.

Dustin Schwartz

And it was it was going pretty good, but same thing my previous job, if you remember the insurance issue. Oh, that came up again. So, he's he got his quote to you know what it's what they're charging him for insurance. And it's a big thing, I guess, uh, for commercial driving under the age of 25. If you're under the age of 25, and especially if you have speeding tickets or anything like that, yeah, they charge you like crazy. Yeah, so it came up. Um he talked to me, he was like, he told me it's an outrageous amount to insure me um for to drive his truck, and he's like, he honestly can't afford to do that. Like so he at this time the whole reason I guess that he wanted somebody in the shed truck, because he also had semis or a semi, and he was flat-bedding, you know, hauling flatbed loads, um, lumber, um, stuff like that. And so this was kind of his way of getting two trucks on the road. One was doing shed hauling and one was doing or he was in the in the big truck.

Cord

Right.

Dustin Schwartz

And I should mention too, at this time, I didn't I was running a truck that did not require CDL, so it was a small, you know, F350 with a small trailer. Sure. So, he still didn't still didn't have my CDL. Um he uh but the whole insurance thing, he was like, he thinks he's just gonna stay in the big truck and he's gonna sell the shed rig to someone else, and he said he's gonna give me the first chance at it. So, I was I talked to my dad because I didn't have money at the time. Yeah, I didn't have money for a shed rig. And every actually the whole rig was financed. He was making payments on it. Um it was financed, and we were able to work it out to where I was just able to take over the payments on everything, and he didn't charge me any extra. It was literally just take over the payments, and it's your run with it.

Cord

That's awesome.

Dustin Schwartz

So, I was like, I'm jumping on it. I was at this point, I was like, I was starting to get the hang of it. You know, it'd probably been a couple weeks or maybe a couple of months, probably a couple of months. Um and I, you know, started to get the fuel, feel for things and figurin g it out. And um I told him, Yeah, I'm gonna I'll do it. I'll buy it and I'll keep doing the delivery side. And he was keeping the shed lot, so my mother-in-law, well not at the time, but yeah, yeah, her and her and um my girlfriend were still doing the sale sales, and so I jumped on it, I uh looked started getting all my numbers, I had to get my own DOT, MC number, all that stuff. And the good thing about this was I had all the work lined up. Like I already had tons of work. This was you know, spring of 2018, and it was it was booming. Yeah, and um the starting out, getting all the you know, paperwork numbers, all that stuff was a pretty big headache for me. It was something I'd never I guess done before, but I ended up paying somebody to kind of do all that for me and uh got the DOT number, got my own authority, um, put my name on the truck, and uh just started working, like work, work, work. And um of course there's the whole insurance thing. That was that was uh I they wanted so I called in um to get insurance, and the only company that would insure me was Progressive, the big company, you know. They that was the only company that would that would insure me. And they wanted they wanted eleven thousand dollars right up front for the rest of the year. Like there was no exceptions. They they're like no payments, you just we need this all up front, right? I didn't have eleven thousand dollars into my name. Like I was, you know, yeah.

Cord

So trying to get started. I mean, my goodness.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, trying to get started. I was like, so I had to loan the money from my dad. He loaned me eleven thousand dollars and I just paid him back because I uh over the over the months, and um the insurance was yeah, definitely a big factor and continues to be.

Cord

I mean, that's probably the hottest topic, you know, like if but anyway, so you so you get yourself up and up and rolling, um, and it sounds like you had like you say, you already have the business from your like the what was soon to be your family, you know, side with their lots. I suppose you're then taking on you know other, you know, adjacent in the region type of stuff, or were you able to stay busy enough just inside the family business there?

Dustin Schwartz

Um for the most part, uh most of the work came from just those lots that he had, those two just two lots, and they were really good lots. Like um one was on the east, far east side of uh Ohio, close to Wheeling, and then the other one was on the east side of Wheeling, and those two lots there were enough to keep me keep me busy.

Cord

Right.

Dustin Schwartz

Um, and then there was like yeah, there was a couple other little Amish uh shops, local Amish shops around that he was hauling for, and I just continued getting that work as well. So, um work was not an issue, like it was it was way more work than I had worked more than I had ever worked at a nine to five or anything.

Cord

Keeping it hooked up all the time.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, it was uh it was like dark to dark a lot of nights and or a lot of days.

Cord

That's uh that's what you do when you're young though, right? I mean you're young, you know, you're still figuring out uh just how to you know navigate the world and the thing that you can do that you know that's uh you know, as we get older, as you start to learn, you know, that that uh that becomes harder as you get older is you can just put in a 14-hour day, 16-hour day, right? I mean, it may not be fun, but like your the youth of it, the energy of it, your body just allows for it. Um and it's an it's an advantage. That's what I tell my sons all the time. Like, you know, like you may not be able to, you may not always be the most talented or the smartest guy in the room, but you can be the first one there and you can be the last one to leave and you can outwork everybody in between. You're 22 years old. Right? Put your nose to the grindstone and you know make it work. But um, so fast forward

Staying A Solo Driver Over Time

Cord

then. I mean, obviously now you've um you know you've had DNR for several years. Um are you running, uh is it still is it still you pretty much as the single driver? Do you have multiples? Kind of how has how have things gone over the years? Is your family still selling sheds and having shed lots? What's the update?

Dustin Schwartz

So yeah, there's been some changes there. Um and it is just it is still just me. I'm the only driver. I have thought about many there's been many times, especially over like 2020, 2019, 2021, 2022. Those were yeah, those were some crazy busy years. Like and I was very close to like trying to you know just add another driver, but I would always run into loads of work in the summer, and then I wouldn't be able to keep enough work for a driver in the winter time. And I I don't know, I just I guess ended up always just doing it myself, like everything. Um the one thing I did change probably I don't know, a couple of years ago was I took all the scheduling and stuff and let my dad he does he does the uh all the scheduling and dispatching for me. Um and that was a huge thing because anybody that does that knows that it can be a headache. Like just trying to schedule multiple load multiple buildings to individuals. Like everybody's got something going on, and it sometimes feels impossible to make it make it work out for everybody, but um that was a huge, a huge load off my shoulders. Yeah, um as far as the family thing what happened soon actually soon after I don't know maybe not super soon, but like a while after I started hauling sheds, um my father-in-law wanted to sell the lots, and he sold ended up selling the lots to my dad. My dad bought them, and so my dad was now running the shed lots and still is to this day. And um, my girlfriends stayed at the lot, she was still selling, and uh at this point in time she was ready to quit. She was tired of selling sheds, right?

Cord

Right, it wears on people, yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

Um so he took over, he took over the lots. Um it was the same company uh that he was selling for. And um I can't remember when my wife quit. Honestly can't remember, but she ended up quitting, um quitting that, and um my sister ended up starting there, and she started selling.

Cord

And this is a family affair all around.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah. My sister did it for a while, and then she quit. Now as far as the salespeople, my brother now sells there, and then there's another girl that sells there, so uh who is not part of the family, but she's been she's been selling for quite a while now. She's been working there. Um I'd say she might be the one person that's been there the longest out of everybody, but um yeah, I mean, still in the family, it's just kind of flipped around.

Cord

Flip sides, yeah. Well, you know, that's uh you know, that's a proud uh a proud tradition in the in the chin industry, right? It all just moves between the families and uh keeps on going down the road, right? But uh

Why He Starts Creating Content

Cord

yeah. So then so then tell me, you know, um obviously I've become a fan of uh Chin Movers R Us and your YouTube channel and the way that you document, and I think you do such a good job of the exposition. I think that your kind of commentary that's like live, you know, either as you're headed out or even you know, while you're on the job, I think you do such a good job of talking the viewers through what's happening, uh, which is an easy thing to forget about whenever you're out there working, you know, just trying to get the job done. Um so I think you do a great job of it. I mean, what was it when and how, and what was it that kind of got you into the you know, digital creator, content creator? Because I have to say, you know, uh a thing that I've noticing about yourself, and then like I said, for those who listened last week, you know, uh you and Jeremy are both fairly reserved fellas, you know, uh, and guys who do such a great job on camera, but who, you know, in conversation, you guys are you know just steady and you know it's not this kind of like oh amped up, you know, whatever, that type of stuff that you normally think of when you think of people who you know tend to want to be in front of a camera. So, like how did that come about? I mean, was it natural for you? It feels like it's something that you have to warm up to a little bit.

Dustin Schwartz

Definitely is um not natural for me at all. No. It's uh yeah, I am more reserved because like if you if you were to hang out with me or in in my friend group, I'm definitely not my friends don't I'm not known to be the big talker or the loud one, right? But so that was definitely something hard, hard for me to I don't know, get used to, I guess, just talking to a camera in itself is can be a kind of awkward who are you talking to?

Cord

You're talking to the imaginary viewer that you don't actually have yet, right?

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, and I still don't consider myself great at it because um there's times where it feels I don't know, it just it's not something that's natural to me, I guess, but I'm not a big talker. Um the uh the way I guess the way it started, the YouTube thing. So, I've always wanted a uh I've always wanted a YouTube channel when I was younger. So when I was younger, it would have been totally something totally different. It would have been I was really big into gaming. So I would watch YouTube gamers, which I know sounds weird. It's huge.

Cord

Yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

And I was never good enough to I didn't l see myself as good enough to do something like that, but it was something I've wanted to do for a long time. And never knew what I would actually make a YouTube channel for, like what it what it would be about.

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Dustin Schwartz

And the way I the way I um kind of figured out what I'm gonna do was I seen somebody else have a channel that was in the shed industry. And you probably you might have heard of him. Uh Josh. Shed Happens.

Cord

Oh yeah, yeah, of course.

Dustin Schwartz

He's got a he's got a big channel. And he started, I mean, I don't know when he started it. He's been doing it a long time.

Cord

Yeah, I think his was back in in like the 2016 type of an era. I mean, I think he's had it for a decade already. Um Yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

So I mean, it what I always like, what I always tell people is like, I didn't just come up with this. I mean, if we're being honest, I kind of kind of followed in Josh's footsteps. Like he was I consider him the OG of the Shed videos because he's the one that kind of started or the one that I started watching. And I was like, man, if Josh can do it, I'm doing the same type of work. And I was like, why did I never think of doing that? Like, people do find this this equipment interesting. And I was like, why did I never think of that? So, because I would watch Josh's, I would watch all his videos, like yeah, which is funny because I'm in the same industry, but I still watched him.

Cord

I was like, I mean, the stuff he runs into, and uh the humor of it, the exposition of it. I mean, it's a story, you know, like you know, um whatever you people started out, you know, reading books and then listening to the radio, and then watching scripted television, and then watching unscripted television, and now we're all the way down to just like here, like we want the narrative, the exposition of just like life. And that's what you're out there doing. I mean, it's your life as a Shed Haller intersecting with the life of whoever that customer is and whatever they've got going on, and whether you're delivering or picking up or repo-ing or whatever it is, you know, it's a story. And you know, I think you do you may be a little um you know unsure or still working on your craft, but I think you do a great job of like laying that story out at the beginning and setting everything up and then continuing to give the audience that narrative as it happens. So um, so anyway, so when approximately then when was it that you started doing this? And you know, I think maybe even just to give people a little behind the scenes, you know, what did you start with? How hard was it? I think people get intimidated by the actual stuff, the hardware, the cameras, the stuff like that. But like how did you start out?

TikTok To YouTube With A Phone

Dustin Schwartz

Um basically the way I started out was um my first type of content was short form content um for TikTok. And I was a I was a late TikTok user. Like I got into it late, like TikTok came out and people were using it, and I never even downloaded the app. And then it took me a while. I finally downloaded it, and I seen um I was like, you know, I could start posting some short videos on here. Uh I all I used was I bought a uh a mount, I guess it's the same type of mount that you would get for a GoPro body mount, but you get a uh a phone mount to put onto that, and I'll just I just use my iPhone, I'd put it on my person and um just video what I was doing, but I would do short form. I would just do short form, and that's really how it started. I didn't do the TikTok thing very long. Um I guess my goal was to do longer form videos. So, um I started with TikTok, short form, and then I finally so I had a video kind of go viral for me on TikTok. It was like only a hundred thousand views, but for TikTok, that's not that much. Like you can get millions and millions of views on there.

Cord

So, that's a lot for a startup channel. I mean, that's a lot of people.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, well, it was it was uh I guess the reason I started on TikTok, I thought it'd be easier to grow on there. It just seemed like videos got more reached um on there. So, I started on there and I put this one video um where I was picking up a building and it kind of got vi like sort of went viral on there. And I had filmed the whole job, but I just put this short clip- on TikTok, and I was like, okay, that thing kind of went crazy. So that was I think that was my first actual um YouTube video. I had put on a couple short videos on YouTube, but that one there was my first one, and I just all I did was filmed it on my phone and I edited the whole thing on my phone. Did not like I didn't have a computer, I didn't have nothing. Like I was not I wasn't ready to like I didn't have the right setup, but I just did it. And um actually I don't know how many videos deep it goes, but I was doing everything with the phone. Like I didn't have a GoPro, didn't have any type of camera, just did it with my phone. I would like to do it. Doing editing the whole the whole bit. Yeah, I'll get home and whip out the phone and just try to edit a long form video on my phone, which was kind of a nightmare. But it's what got me started, and um I remember like seeing some of these videos get some reach, you know, get some views and stuff. I was like, I'm gonna get a computer, I'm gonna get something that um I can edit with because the computer that I had was pretty slow. Like you would hit uh you would try and download or you would try and edit a video and it would just sit there and buffer, and it's like this isn't working. So, I went out and spent um spent some good money on a decent computer, and um it really really helped the production, I guess. It was it sped me up. I could yeah, yeah, but um I did end up getting some cameras and that made it easier too, because trying to do it on your phone can be kind of well, if you get a phone call while you're videoing and you don't know it, that'll shut the shut the camera off. That's happened many times, but um I finally figured out to just put it in airplane mode and then we're good to go.

Cord

But right.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, starting out didn't have the right equipment, but well now a good start.

Cord

Yeah, and you just did it. And I think, you know, for the listeners, and as we kind of continue to march forward in in this digital age, you know, where there are new consumers, new buyers every day, um, who have grown up native to these platforms, who have grown up completely and totally comfortable, you know, uh making purchase decisions online, um, you know, or at least or at least becoming comfortable with the company online. You know, there may still be a visit to the store. I mean, it's not like young people don't go to Target, you know, like they've you know, young people love Target, but they want to be comfortable with uh the brand, the store, the personalities. Like they want to have that connection. Um, and you know, probably a lot of it being cynical is because you know, we've lost a lot of that connection in our in our community lives. Um, you know, uh there's just less participation, you know, in in the general community for most people. So, they find that online. Um but it but it's an advantage for business if you just do what you're saying and you just jump in and do it to start, you know, uh and a lot of companies are doing that. A lot of, I see a lot of our listeners, a lot of shed industry companies who are just putting themselves out there, are putting their face in front of a camera and who are starting to allow a customer to build that trust with a specific person, you know, that they then would uh you know potentially interact with.

Multi Camera Setup And Editing Reality

Cord

But so now take us through because I'm always impressed with how good your edits are, because at this point you've basically got front facing, uh cabin face, like you've got the hood of your truck, you've got the cabin, like you, you know, the shot that's like back at yourself, you've got a uh a backup cam so you can look out, you know, whenever you're even back at a trailer in now that you're so good at it, you know, now you can now you can clip it up. Um so what's the setup? And I'm and then I presume you're now doing GoPro on the chest, or what's the setup now that you've kind of managed to get deep enough in into it?

Dustin Schwartz

Um so yeah, I ended up getting 3D cameras, but most times I'm only using two. Um also the more cameras you're using, the harder it's gonna be in post, like to edit.

Cord

Yep.

Dustin Schwartz

Trying to sync everything up, which the software I have uh kind of does all the hard work there and uh syncs it up. You have to do some stuff, but um yeah, the more cameras, the harder I discovered the harder it is for me to edit. But it's also it makes it easier in a way because um the way it makes it easier, I guess, would be you got a camera facing one way and you got maybe a body camera on or you got a camera set up somewhere else, and maybe one camera didn't capture what I wanted to capture. So, having that extra footage, you know, you can grab that and put that in there. But um the setup uh started off with GoPro, just put a just a good old GoPro camera, and I still just use action cameras, I don't have any big fancy cameras or anything, but um, I did switch to the camera that I'm using here is a DJI, and the reason I switched to that over the GoPro was the low light capabilities on the GoPro were just I feel like they're not up to par, I guess. Um and it's the same type of camera, it's just an action camera. But um, and then as far as editing, um, I don't have any training in in editing. That was another whole like a whole new ball game for me. Um ironically enough, I learned on YouTube how to edit YouTube videos, yeah. Just a lot of videos, and I would I would be I'd be working on a project and I would come across something that I would like to do, like a new edit here. I have this idea in my head, but I don't know how to um how to do it.

Cord

So all the cuts and all the whooshes and yeah, whatever's necessary, yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

So just go on YouTube and figure it out. There's tons of stuff on YouTube.

Cord

YouTube university, as they say these days, right?

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah.

Cord

You can learn anything, you know.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, you can.

Cord

They should really start handing out certificates. You know, if you put in if you put in 10,000 hours in a specific subject, they should just be like, you know what, that's a we're gonna certify the education of this guy. Um you know, but I think that is um, you know, one of the things that we're really working on um is like we see the need um across the industry, um, but really in general, um, you know, for the actual because the post is the hard part, right? I mean, like once you've got your setup and you you're able to capture, of course, you gotta make sure your cameras are charged and you're not losing footage on, you know, because something because of a mishap or whatever, but by and large, you know, the biggest um the biggest input winds up being your time in post, in edits, um, and really limits the actual volume of content that you can produce is more limited by how much time you can actually devote to doing the editing, more so than how much can you capture. Do you feel like I'm describing that in a in a fair way?

Dustin Schwartz

Very much, yeah. There was many nights where I would I would come home from work and that's all I really got done. Just trying to get because starting out, I was trying to pump out videos as much as I could. And it just it feels like it just added another thing to my to my task list for the day was editing at night, and I would edit till late at night and sometimes not get it done, but then finish it the next night and then um upload it. But yeah, editing is definitely the most for me time consuming part of it because I do it, I do everything myself. But um getting the actual footage is I mean, not crazy hard. I mean, you gotta set up cameras and

Fixing Shaky Video And Bad Audio

Dustin Schwartz

stuff. But one thing that right from the get-go was uh people would complain about the body cam. I get a lot of elderly people that watch my channel and they're watching it on a big screen, and it's not something that I would have thought about because most of the YouTube I watch is on my phone. Well, it used to be. I mean, it's now it anymore it is like our new TV.

Cord

Uh really it is, yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

Um, I it's not something I thought about, and it is shaking, and the bigger screen that you're watching it on, the shakier it seems. And for older people, I think that it can definitely affect that. So, are you Osmo?

Cord

Have you tried the Osmo, the DJI Osmo? Um, so that's like the mini steady cam. So, it's got a tiny little gimbal that like it's like mountable, but it actually is the actual lens is setting on a gimbal that's probably no bigger than you know the a finger, you know.

Dustin Schwartz

So okay. I have not tried that, so it would be a lot more steady, I guess.

Cord

They're pretty solid. Yeah, they're pretty solid. And now Samsung just came out. I mean, I know we're getting in the weeds on actual like hardware here, but um the new uh Samsung demo that's actually on a phone, they uh just released a video where they had basically taped a phone to uh the rim of a car, and you know, obviously you then get that like rolling effect. Well, they've got some kind of I don't even know how to describe it, sorcery, um, where like the picture instead of instead of rolling over, I mean, obviously it bounces because the level of the lens is going you know from high to low, but like they show this auto level feature and it literally just goes like this. It's crazy. I have no idea how that is even possible as the camera physically or as the phone physically turns. So, some of these, you know, as more people are creating content, then more hardware, you know, more hardware companies are then creating the combos of hardware and software that like start to solve for these things because I'm like you. I mean, YouTube has effectively, you know, become television unless there is unless there's storms passing through, which even at that point, I mean, in a lot of ways, I'd rather watch Brian Hall, y'all, um, than uh, you know, a YouTube channel than my local weather station because he just he covers it better. You know, now he's gonna jump back and forth from here to there and not necessarily have that local coverage. But as we continue to morph and you know uh uh creator-driven content continues to take up more and more of people's time, I mean, just naturally, all of these things are going to get solved because these companies know if they want to stay in business, they have to produce the hardware and the software that allows people like me and you to figure out how the heck to produce a television show. You know.

Dustin Schwartz

Yep, that's true. You know, and I am I am trying to um you know upgrade certain equipment. Like starting off, I just used uh cameras with the internal mic, and that was another complaint I would get. That's all you really have to do is listen to your go through some of your comments and see what people are complaining about. Yeah, and try and fix like you don't you're not gonna please everybody, but try and fix the things that you can. And that was a thing. Another reason for switching to DJI was the I love their mic system. So, this little mic uh Bluetooth connects to that camera super easy, and it's something I can just have on me, and it doesn't matter how far I am from the camera, they can still hear what I'm saying, or uh yeah. So audio was another thing that I would get complaints on. They're like, we can't hear what you're saying, you know, or so I did change that. Uh I've been thinking about trying out a 360 cam. Um, I see a lot of people are starting to use those, set it on top of the truck or something, and then you got oh 360 vision.

Cord

Yeah, and then in the in the edit, you can actually I see people where they even show it where they're like almost, I mean, you know, the full the full thing is really this big wrap, but like in the edit, they'll actually make it look like the camera pivots, you know, which is also like another cool feature. Um it's getting sophisticated and it's getting to where normal folks can kind of pretty reasonably put together fairly professional production quality, um you know, which is as we say, continues to kind of continues to kind of be the standard that people want, right? They almost want Shed Movers R Us to look like um whatever, pick your pick your kind of reality show style, right? They almost want it to look like storage wars or cops or you know what I mean, like something that had a whole crew of people doing it.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah. It's like I'm just one person here. I have thought about taking somebody with because uh it would make for better content if somebody actually had a camera and could move around. Yeah. But uh it's something I've thought about, but uh I haven't, yeah.

Cord

Well, it's a really it's that same idea. It's like how much do you wind up? It's sort of like getting a second driver or whatever, you know, like how much, you know, are you changing a production like standard almost to where then the new standard of how your videos look is almost having that like third person handheld. And now is it then then does the audience get upset if you don't have it? So now you're paying the guy to ride with you. All the time. It's hard decisions to make, you know?

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, it is. It's I don't know. I don't want to make it to where it's so complicated that I end up just not wanting to do it too. Yeah, exactly. That's a big thing because and starting out um It it's really not like me to start something without having all the all the stuff to do it. That was one thing um I had to kind of break out of that because um I am usually the person that doesn't want to do something unless I know I got it figured out and I got everything that I need. Right. And uh so I kind of had to go against my I don't know what you would call it, but nature. Yeah, thinks yeah,

Raising Trust Across The Shed Industry

Dustin Schwartz

yeah.

Cord

And I'm normally that way too. Um but you're right, it's something it's something that you just have to dive into. Um well I know we've kind of gone a little long, um, but I do appreciate you for being on. I appreciate the conversation. I think that you know we kind of continue to see this need for especially the post-production, the edit side of things. So, we're working really hard um to try and create the team that can do all of these things at scale. Um because I think it's important not just for you know Shed Movers R Us or Shed Geek or uh Pro Shed Builder or you know, pick the pick the people who are making videos and putting them out. You know, I think it's important for the whole industry that we have good content um just out in the atmosphere uh because the industry needs to have um it just needs to have trusted faces. You know, um it's a it's a fragmented industry. It's not the kind of thing where you can kind of point to a singular figure like you can in, you know, for you know, your phones, uh, you know, Tim Cook or Steve Jobs before him. Or um it's not the kind of thing where the customer can necessarily build trust with like one centralized figure. So, we need everybody kind of building the trust of the industry um that has sometimes gotten a bad rap. And to continue to change that, we just need good people, good operators uh who are putting their faces and their personalities out there. So um, you know, we want to help with that. And you know, you and I have talked um, you know, I we would really like to even have almost a conglomerate type of a channel where we can have some contributors from here and contributors from there and really help to lift um you know all the content creators, but right alongside of them, the actual shed builders, um, you know, and manufacturers and dealers and haulers and everybody in between. So, um in any case, um we want to lean into it, and we so much appreciate um, you know, you and all the others out there who are kind of doing this work and who are um doing a great job of it, which you definitely are. So, um thank you so much. I'd love to have you on again, um, Dustin. Like let's keep up with the trends and um you know, maybe even get like a content creators roundtable where you know let you guys kind of talk shop and talk about the algorithms and you know who's getting throttled and who's skyrocketing and what you know what do you need to tweak to do it. And you know, I just think this is the type of topic that we have to keep engaging the audience with because it's gonna be vital for the future of the industry.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah.

Cord

So anyway, if you would, um I would I would love to have you back. Uh I've had fun with it. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your story um and for giving us a little uh peek behind. I don't know if we ever got to the end of that story, but obviously somewhere in there, you did propose to your girlfriend. She became your wife. I see pictures of uh looks like uh uh you and your wife and uh and um and uh a child in the background. So, it sounds like it's all worked out for you. Am I right about that?

Dustin Schwartz

It did, yeah. Actually, actually, uh when I started my job or started in the shed industry 2018, I uh I thought I was just making the money now because I had never made this kind of money before, but at the same time I'd never you know had this experience.

Cord

Yeah, right.

Dustin Schwartz

But I was seeing the money and I actually engaged or got engaged to my wife now.

Cord

Now wife, yeah.

Dustin Schwartz

That same that same year, later on uh that year. So, um then we got married. We actually got I started in the shed industry the first part of 2018, and we got married towards the end of 2018.

Cord

So you knew it, you knew it was going in the right direction. And you must have you must have got the sign off from your uh father-in-law um who threw you out there. You must have been industrious and uh and had enough fortitude that he was okay with that. So uh so you did good, Dustin. You did good. But uh thank you. Thank you for being on. I've really enjoyed it. Um, you know, enjoyed making your acquaintance and learning all about uh the business and the content side and everything

Where To Follow And Final Thanks

Cord

else. Um so if you're listening out there, go and obviously uh like, subscribe, watch all of Dustin's videos. That is Shed Movers R Us uh with a capital R instead of the A R E, uh sort of like Toys R Us, Shed Movers R Us. Uh go like and subscribe and leave him a comment, show him some love, uh help him with the algorithm, um, and let everybody know that uh the shed industry has each other's backs. Um and we love to see somebody you know doing good work out there. So thank you very much, Dustin. I appreciate you, man. And please, please come back uh on another episode of the Shed Geek Podcast.

Dustin Schwartz

Yeah, we'll do uh thank you for having me on here. This is definitely something new. I've never seen myself being on a podcast, I guess, but um yeah, I appreciate you having me on here and I enjoyed the conversation.

Cord

Yes, absolutely. Thank you, sir.

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