Shed Geek Podcast
The Shed Geek Podcast offers an in depth analysis of the ever growing and robust Shed Industry. Listeners will experience a variety of guests who identify or specialize in particular niche areas of the Shed Industry. You will be engaged as you hear amateur and professional personalities discuss topics such as: Shed hauling, sales, marketing, Rent to Own, shed history, shed faith, and much more. Host Shannon Latham is a self proclaimed "Shed Geek" who attempts to take you through discussions that are as exciting as the industry itself. Listeners of this podcast include those who play a role directly or indirectly with the Shed Industry itself.
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Revolutionizing Sheds: A Father-Son Journey of Innovation and Growth
Ever wondered how a father-son duo from Ottawa, Canada, manages to revolutionize the shed industry? Join us as we chat with JP Giasson and his son Scott, the masterminds behind Kodiak Sheds. You'll hear how their connection with Woody's trucking services played a pivotal role during the pandemic, alongside their unique business aspects like making maple syrup and using Amish craftsmanship from the US. Discover the behind-the-scenes logistics of transporting sheds across the US-Canada border, and the passion and teamwork it takes to succeed in this international market.
Scott Giasson gives us a firsthand account of growing up amidst shed deliveries and mastering the art of equipment handling from a young age. Listen as we discuss the evolution of their delivery practices, from utilizing GM trucks and Pine Hill trailers to navigating the unique challenges across different regions. JP shares his diverse entrepreneurial ventures, from landscaping and snow removal to the shed industry, and how these experiences have shaped their dynamic business. Scott's enthusiasm for the family business and his aspirations in the trucking industry provide an inspiring narrative of dedication and growth.
The importance of in-house repairs and teamwork in the shed industry can't be overstated. Scott's versatility, from sales to hands-on repairs, underscores the significance of having skilled team members. We explore the innovative materials being used in shed building, the strong sense of community among haulers, and the value of mutual support in this tight-knit industry. Wrapping up, we celebrate the camaraderie and collaborative spirit that drives the shed business forward, with a special mention of Woody's 40th anniversary. Tune in to learn about the dedication, strategy, and heart behind a thriving shed business and community.
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All right, welcome back to another episode of the Shed Geek podcast, Sambassdor, Friday Fun Day edition with your host, Sam Byler, and I'm here at Woody's 40th anniversary trucking anniversary party and did a podcast with Woody earlier today and got him to put his story down, so that's going to be cool. One of the first times I came here to visit Woody, we were down here in this basement and we had a brotherhood board meeting and I met this guy from Canada, of all places, and I think that was in 2019 or the beginning of 2020, so it's been about four years ago. Jp, why don't you introduce yourself and your son and tell us a little bit about what you do, and then we'll make the connection of how you got to know Woody?
JP GIASSON:My name is JP Giasson. We're from Ottawa, Canada. I'm here with my son, Scott. He's our main hauler up in Canada and trains everybody. And we have Kodiak Sheds. We have five locations in Ontario and yes, you're right, first time I met you was in this basement and I remember bringing maple syrup for everybody because I knew I was going to meet everybody.
SAM BYLER:I wondered if you were going to remember that I certainly did, because we make maple syrup right on our farm yeah, so oh, you make yours on your farm, so you, you have a leg up on those other guys up there that uh try to push their syrup on us too.
SCOTT GIASSON:But there's you buying them they're just buying theirs.
SAM BYLER:You actually make yours, so you're you're the legit people. When it comes to the syrupy, yeah yes, we certainly do we can trash talk him because he's sitting over there behind the camera right now.
SAM BYLER:So yeah, they're, uh. Uh. The goosens episode just came out last week. I got to listen to it yesterday on the way up here and the cool, the cool thing about when people tell their stories. You know, I feel like a lot of you guys. I know you pretty well and I kind of know your shed story, but I'm privileged in the fact that I get to hear those stories when a lot of people don't. But it never fails. I learn stuff that I had no idea about, and even last night we were sitting there talking.
JP GIASSON:Woody asked why is his last name?
SAM BYLER:Freedom. We talked about the whole truck convoy thing and the bridge shutdown and all that, and it's all part of our stories. All of us have a story and all of us have pieces in our story that need to be told. So, yeah, that was cool to get to meet you here.
JP GIASSON:How do you know Woody? Well, I was actually telling Esther, his wife, that I've known and helped us out quite a bit over the last four or five years. We were down here and I ended up seeing a truck that went by and it said Woody's Transport, and I literally looked it up on my phone and got his number and I called him. He was driving and he picked up and we spoke and I said, would you haul up to Canada? And he certainly did. And so yes, he was hauling our sheds up to Canada for us from down here in Pennsylvania. And then the pandemic happened and there was a lot of issues crossing the border and all that stuff. But Woody was still able to cross into the border and all that stuff. But uh, woody was still able to cross into the border and, um, I was just mentioning it to esther and and uh, woody's son, and uh, he did 139 loads that summer.
JP GIASSON:For us it was uh hold it, it was, it was wild wow um, it's.
SAM BYLER:It's kind of weird. I knew he was able to keep going across the border when it didn't seem like anybody else was able to.
JP GIASSON:Yeah, I don't know. I guess it had to do with being a hauler and a trucker, and there's no reason other companies like Amazon was still bringing stuff across the border. So why couldn't we bring sheds? And so that really we were just we couldn't keep sheds in stock, and it was awesome, it was amazing.
SAM BYLER:Yeah, so how long you been doing sheds.
JP GIASSON:We've been doing sheds. This is our 15th year of doing sheds, All right. And you've always got them from around here, or no, northern New York State is where we get them.
JP GIASSON:We bring them into Canada. We did for a while, for a few years, build them in Canada, but unfortunately it's the Amish just really like to work and they make a great shed. They're handcrafted, you know beautiful sheds and I guess up where we are. We just couldn't find the craftsmen and framers to really work and take pride in their work, so we just stayed with the Amish in northern New York State.
JP GIASSON:And we've actually opened our own plant right in in Alexandria Bay, New York, just off of Interstate 81. And that was two years ago, and so it's been.
SAM BYLER:So everything's pretty much coming from there now.
JP GIASSON:Everything comes from there.
SAM BYLER:We don't build any in.
JP GIASSON:Canada. They're all building in Northern New York and here in Pennsylvania and then brought up to Canada.
SAM BYLER:So explain to me the process of taking sheds across the border from one like you're building them in the US and you're taking them and selling them in Canada. Once you figure it out, is that a pretty simple system, or is there? Do you deal with a lot of paperwork you have to deal with?
JP GIASSON:It's very simple to do. Um woody does it a little differently. He, he deals with our broker and so then he doesn't have to stop. Uh, he literally just scans his paperwork at the border and just comes to our whichever location it needs to be dropped at, uh, for our semis. Uh, when our drivers come, we actually do what they call a B3, and they clear it at customs, okay, and then they bring them in, pay the taxes and it's very simple. But again, it's intimidating for people that have never done it before. But as soon as you know how it's done, it's very easy and doable, yeah.
SAM BYLER:So I used the truck over the road more back in the 90s and early 2000s and, uh, I'd run back and forth across the border all the time. I always had to have all my paperwork and barcodes and all that stuff. I couldn't. It just seemed to me like I couldn't even imagine having to haul my own product back and forth across there. But sounds like it's fairly simple.
SAM BYLER:Scott, where do you, where do you land in this? Um, are you one of these? Uh, so I grew up in construction with my dad and always wanted to drive trucks. We weren't allowed to drive trucks. You know that was uh woody and I actually talked about this. You know, my dad would have been one of the guys that says just don't ever buy a peterbilt youilt, drive a pickup truck with a long trailer, do whatever you have to. But when you buy a semi, all of a sudden you're not a family man anymore.
SAM BYLER:I raised a family driving semis because I didn't like swinging hammers anymore, but then every couple years I'd make enough money to where I didn't have to be on the road anymore. So I'd go back to swinging a hammer and then I'd run out of money. So I'd make enough money to where I didn't have to be on the road anymore. So I'd go back to swinging a hammer, and then I'd run out of money so I'd go back to trucking again. I did that. So you, you grow, you grow up in a so I'm doing a little bit of math. You pretty much knew sheds your whole life pretty much.
SCOTT GIASSON:Yeah, it was just like once I could kind of. I mean, it was like growing up on the farm just with the trucks and tractors and stuff.
JP GIASSON:I, I mean.
SCOTT GIASSON:I always kind of like passion for like driving equipment, I guess, and I mean once I guess I was like old enough to kind of hold the remote. I guess I was just with my dad pushing buttons, help him back up and stuff and then helping strap. I mean it wasn't probably the tight strapping, you'd have to double check it all and make sure it's done right. But I mean it wasn't probably the tie strapping You'd have to double check it all and make sure it's done right. But I mean, that's kind of what.
SAM BYLER:I did, is just followed them around, so do you? Is that what you're still? Are you like delivering cheds now? Yeah, mainly.
SCOTT GIASSON:I'm mainly just a home delivery guy. So I just pick them up at our lots and then deliver them to the houses. I mean, right now I'm kind of all over the place. I'm learning like a lot of background stuff as well, so just kind of the background of owning a business and running a business. So I mean we have some other guys just kind of doing what I was doing, but mainly I still deliver though delivering it to houses.
SAM BYLER:What kind of equipment do you use?
SCOTT GIASSON:We have one ton just GM trucks.
JP GIASSON:We're big.
SCOTT GIASSON:GM fans up there.
SAM BYLER:So you're trying to hide the one you have now under all the decals.
SCOTT GIASSON:Yeah, we have a big wrap on them all oh nice, so the rest of them are wrapped. Yeah, they're all the exact same. We actually have one Dodge too, one one-ton Dodge one, ram.
SAM BYLER:Well, you don't have to make it sound like you're apologetic about it.
SCOTT GIASSON:Somebody has to do the work at the end of the day and pay the bills. But yeah, we have, what is it? Six trucks, six trucks now, and then all Pine Hill home delivery trailers and they all go to 40 feet and that's kind of what we do. Is Mules? We have two mules.
SAM BYLER:Two mules.
SCOTT GIASSON:We actually charge for the mule as well up there. So it's like and we don't do any blocking, it's all.
SAM BYLER:No blocking. No blocking, you wouldn't last long in South Carolina. No.
SCOTT GIASSON:It's all like gravel pads. I mean the homeowners. They're responsible for doing that.
SAM BYLER:Yeah.
SCOTT GIASSON:And they get it all prepped for us and then we just back up and drop them in. I guess we have it pretty easy compared to some of the guys on the haulers page. And so seeing some of the pictures are pretty interesting.
SAM BYLER:Yeah, I've grown up blocking sheds.
JP GIASSON:That's all I do.
SAM BYLER:I helped Abner twice and both times he got his mule stuck trying to get up the pad and I said you can have gravel pads, I don't want anything to do with them. Well, and they weren't level either. That was the other problem. Yeah, so then you still end up having to try to put little shims in. I was actually talking to a guy the other day and both of us would actually prefer to block a shed four blocks high. Wow, that's sacrilegious to some people, but this body don't fit under a shim. I'm the same way and it doesn't't fit under a shim.
SAM BYLER:I'm the same way and it doesn't even fit under a four-inch or an eight-inch block. So personally, I just soon set them up on four blocks. It doesn't bother me, right? And back in the day before we had Facebook, we used to. You know these guys that post up now and they're like, oh, the block police are coming because you know it comes up to about here or somewhere like that. I've got sheds I can put a cowboy hat on and walk underneath of. It's just, that's what you did, it didn't matter, and they're still there. They stay there. So no blocking, no.
SAM BYLER:No blocking so do you guys do any? Have you ever talked about I mean, obviously you're business guys Do you talk about doing your own prep work for pads? Do you do pad?
SCOTT GIASSON:work. We do that as well.
SAM BYLER:You do that as well. You do that as well ground prep and stuff.
SCOTT GIASSON:I mean I should have known. It's like we before it kind of sheds, like uh, kind of went crazy like over the pandemic and stuff. We did landscaping and interlock and stuff for like doing all the block work. So, um, we had all the equipment like dump trailers and little tractors and packers and stuff like that.
SAM BYLER:So it was kind of like, well, I mean we could do both, so yeah, that's um JP tell me uh, yeah, I know you got some other stuff goes on that you you're just not happy just doing sheds. Um, where, where did uh like, where do you come from in your past that gives you the drive to you're. You're a little bit like me, like you got to have four or five businesses going before you're able to sleep at night. Where does that come from?
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JP GIASSON:I think it came from my parents. Really, I grew up in Montreal, in the suburbs of Montreal, in Quebec, and we my mom was into antiques and so she would go to flea markets and so on and I ended up getting some background of that and just a business savvy from growing up as a kid. Then, um, I, I actually started in, uh, the golf business, so I was uh so here's where these stories just go crazy.
JP GIASSON:Yes exactly, yes, so I did golf for a long time, and last night we were talking about golf and we're gonna go golfing on Monday. Uh, so we, um yeah. So I ended up, uh, learning to be a golfsmith and I built lots of. We had a store. I used to build all the golf equipment and fix golf equipment back when it was an art, with the old wood, woods and refinishing them.
SCOTT GIASSON:Yeah, the old persimmon woods and stuff. Persimmon woods, exactly, I still have one of those.
JP GIASSON:Yes, they're awesome, they're very beautiful. Uh, then it became uh, just uh, what I call a lick and stick, when you just, you know, put the head on the shaft and then put the grips and re-gripping. And I always liked doing repairs when people uh broke uh shafts and clubs and so on, and I always enjoyed that. But the selling part really got to me, and so you know you're asking about different things. And then I morphed in. I did that for 15 years and then I got into the snow business. As we did that, so I had a farm and up in Canada, where we are, we get quite a bit of snow. So I had some background in that and got some tractors and we did residential snow removal on the driveways and we grew to over 7,500 clients that was. It was very big and it was a lot to handle. So we've been downsizing. We're down to about 20 tractors now. We had 50 odd at the uh, about 20 tractors.
SAM BYLER:Uh, now we had 50 odd at the down, down to 20 tractors, yeah, so I'm sitting here thinking of snow removal business. You probably got two or three tractors out there running around and you're down to 20.
JP GIASSON:Yeah, we had 52 at the 52, one for every week. No no that was, yes, that's true, but we, uh, so that's what we did. And then, um, I was always looking for something um else to do in the summertime and we did, like scott mentioned, interlock, and we do still the grass cutting and and you still do grass cutting.
SAM BYLER:We do like the company does, but okay I don't personally, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. You have grass cutting business cutting and you know the fertilizing what's fertilizing? What's the best mower in Canada?
JP GIASSON:Well, it's a toss-up between the Graveleys and the Toros. Oh really, that's what we usually use yeah, they're really good, and we don't use any of the Rhydon. Well, you can stand up on them.
SCOTT GIASSON:Yes.
JP GIASSON:But they're all kind of zero-turn. They're all kind of zero turn. They're all residential, there's some small commercial, but they don't like the tired marks. So we try not to have that for our clients. But, yeah, so then it morphed into sheds, to get to that point.
SAM BYLER:So, scott, you're on the shed side. You're not on the snow removal side or the lawn mowing side.
SCOTT GIASSON:No, I, stay on the tractor. I can't stand sitting in a tractor, for I mean, I'm like a backup, backup, I guess. If you really Exactly, I'll go in. But I mean I'm happy standing on the cab of a tractor for like 18 hours sitting there waiting for plows and everything I got you. It's not fun.
SAM BYLER:So yeah, you said you grew up on a farm I'm guessing ag farm or not a dairy farm no horses. Horses okay, so you had a lot of hay and stuff.
JP GIASSON:Yes, we do our hay and we did soybean, but now it's just strictly hay. Okay, there's maybe 120 to 150 round bales and a couple thousand small squares, but that's just to feed our, because we have a horse boarding facility as well.
SAM BYLER:It's not just our horses. You just happen to have a horse boarding facility.
SCOTT GIASSON:Is there anything the man doesn't do Like, what do you, do you ever? We do storage as well. Yes, that's right, we do do storage?
JP GIASSON:What do you store? Well, people's boats and cars. I didn't know Canadians had boats. I thought they had ice all the time, oh my goodness, you have to come up to the Great Lakes. We were just talking about that, thousand Islands. It's beautiful fishing.
SAM BYLER:So I'll pull something out.
JP GIASSON:You won't know about me but I used to go to Red Lake every year. Is that red lake alberta or red lake ontario? Well, that's way, that's way up there, way up there.
SAM BYLER:My son was working up there, yep, every time every time you popped over a little hill, ran around a curve, there was another lake. Um, they're everywhere up there and yeah, we'd go into red lake and we'd do a street bible school for like three weeks at the indian reservations and then we'd all pack up on airplane and we'd do street Bible school for like three weeks at the Indian reservations and then we'd all pack up on an airplane and we'd go fly out into the bush somewhere and do some serious fishing, definitely. So, yeah, I know they do. It's just, you know, most people think Canada's froze all the time.
JP GIASSON:Certainly not.
SAM BYLER:And then Alex. He likes to brag on the fact that he lives further south than a lot of the Americans do.
JP GIASSON:That's true.
SAM BYLER:He's right down there, so snow would be a little bit, I guess. What I think of is it's a little bit like running a tow truck business you when you got to go.
JP GIASSON:you got to go, it is it? Um, honestly, uh, I tried to shield, uh my boys. Scott has an older brother, ryan, who's not into really into the sheds, he likes the hospital thing, but I shielded them from the snow because they saw the crazy hours and anxiety.
SAM BYLER:It was, it's not, it's not for the faint of heart, no it is not, it is not.
JP GIASSON:You're up at all kinds of hours and you're just watching the weather constantly.
SAM BYLER:I've got a guy that lives across the street from me right now. He's got a tree business and you know, 10 years ago I couldn't have named you one tree company. I didn't know anybody that even did tree work. Now I've got probably a dozen friends that have tree companies and the guy moves in across the street from me, he has a tree company and, uh, I don't, I don't think the weather's getting any worse. I think people don't do their own cleanup anymore and and then so much of it turns into insurance now that you have to deal with that.
SAM BYLER:We had some bad storms come through like two weeks ago and I was actually I was in Kentucky when it really hit bad and he called me and he wanted to know if we're okay, everything's fine over there, because we had like three or four localized tornadoes. They weren't nothing big, but there was a fair amount of trees and stuff down and I'm like I'm in kentucky. But I said I've been watching my cameras and checking with my wife you know, wife and the girls were at home yeah, we're all fine, and he's like well, he says you won't. You know, next two weeks we'll be working day and night trying to get everything off, because if there's a tree on the house roof, you can't fix the roof until the tree's off right, and so they, they run ragged, you know, for a little while.
SAM BYLER:Um, so yeah, I, I kind of understand. You know where you come from in the fact that when you got it that's the one reason I'm not a tow truck driver is because you got to work 24, 7, correct. Um, I love doing tow truck stuff and I love the whole idea behind it. I love rollbacks and all that stuff.
SAM BYLER:Just don't haul sheds with them, no um, but I no, I'm not my days of getting up. But you know woody gets up at 3 am in the morning, goes haul sheds and he loves doing it. He doesn't know when he's going to quit that's right well, I don't like that. Um, I didn't. 3 am shouldn't even be on the calendar anywhere you know, five is max, but 6, 6, 30 is a little more. And then you heard gary last night. He's trying to get me to go golfing at 6 30. That's right, and I'm like that.
JP GIASSON:That's not even a thing like we can't make it for 7, 10, yeah, we can't even do yeah, and I don't know how I'm gonna get there at 7 10, for that matter.
SAM BYLER:So how do you feel sc? Do you feel about uh? So I grew up in a family that was family business. My dad had a lot of drive and uh did a lot of different business stuff or whatever. Um, where do you land in that Like, does that give you the entrepreneurship spirit to want to do that, or does it more tend to make you want to be like man? I don't want to do that. I see what's going on. You, you know what I'm saying. How, where do you fit in that?
SCOTT GIASSON:yes, you, uh, I understand what you I mean. For me it's like obviously there's like ups and downs like running a business, but I mean kind of seeing, like just learning things every day from my dad and just like watch him run the business. I mean it, uh, it's something that like like encourages me more to like take over maybe one day or something Running myself. I mean, I don't know, it interests me of doing that sort of thing.
SAM BYLER:So it's more of a pull than it is a push away. Yes, correct.
SCOTT GIASSON:And I mean he's talked to me many times. If there's something that I want to go and try and do something else, I mean I'm more than welcome to go. There's no's, no like yeah, you don't feel like you're tied to it, exactly like there's no ties for me staying and, uh, keep working there. I mean, my brother, he doesn't have an interest, I mean he's in the like medical sort of stuff, so he likes working at the hospital and doing his own thing, which I mean works, mean Works for y'all.
JP GIASSON:Yes definitely no, it's awesome. I mean, scott's always been wanted to get his hands dirty, liked in the farm equipment, always liked driving the tractors and figuring out. Just you know all the little troubles that you would get into in farming and with equipment and so on, and Scott has always been good with trucks and trailers and backing up. A lot of times we say either you have it or you don't have it.
JP GIASSON:Oh, absolutely For having to back up because Scott's mother when she's trying to back up a horse trailer. Sometimes it's not a very good event.
SAM BYLER:I don't know if y'all have the same commercials up there we do, but down here a couple of years ago, when they came up with the backup assist, there's this random one where the they're pulling the little horse trailer, yes, and there's all the horses standing out there watching.
SAM BYLER:They're all laughing and they all fall over because it goes this way and that way. That's right. Um, I, I know I've had truck drivers that came to work for me. That have they. They had, you know, 10, 12, 15 years experience and when they start backing up I just have to leave. It's like I can't even stand and watch this. I'm a little bit the same way when I would try to train my guys. The whole sheds. I just want to do it myself and be done with it. Right, that's? That's why dad said at a young age he said you should, should. Just you need something with a steering wheel because we had chicken houses and the chicken trucks would show up and they couldn't get to our chicken houses. So I was a little old, tight, couldn't even barely reach the pedals, and I would back their stuff in because we did like you. We had hay wagons and you know you didn't just back a hay wagon, you back the hay wagon behind the hay wagon, you know, or else you had the baler in between there, you know.
JP GIASSON:And that is always really fun yeah.
SAM BYLER:So it's always and you never lose it, Like I don't think I ever go a week without bagging a trailer because I'm always screwing around with something on them, Right. But I can, you know, be gone three or four days and hook up to any of them and they all back different because the wheels are all different. But it's just, it's something that you learn and it's you either have it or you don't.
JP GIASSON:That is true 100% and Scott was, uh, you know, so he was able to haul sheds and, uh, you know, just uh some doing some small deliveries, uh, when he had first got his driver's license at 16 in Canada and then in Ontario, and then he turned 18 in September and right away he went in and got the government sponsors, people that would like to get into trucking Really. So he got at 18 years old, he got his CDL, or they call it a CDL A-license, az in.
SCOTT GIASSON:Canada.
JP GIASSON:CDL down here in the US and so, yeah, so he drives a Pete. Well, they're the 579s, so they're not as nice as Woody's Peets but he is looking. He's been eyeballing one and we were talking about Scenic View and looking at their nice trailer. He was looking at that one a Pintle Hitch. He'd rather do that and maybe do some of his deliveries that way. He just he likes having the, he really likes the Pete and he loves.
SAM BYLER:I just told you you can't buy a Pete, you can't be driving Peterbilt, I guess it can work.
SCOTT GIASSON:It can be a Kenworth. Yes, that's right, obviously.
SAM BYLER:So the whole deal between Pete and and kenworth. I don't know if y'all know this. I'm gonna let a cat out of the bag here, but everybody knows I boycott buckies and they think it's because that it says no trucks. That's actually not why it says no kenworths. Oh, they picked on a w9 kenworth on their sign.
SAM BYLER:Oh, that's what's got me chapped. It doesn't matter about you know, I can live with all the rest of it. But they literally put a W nine on their sign and it said none of these. So have you been to a Bucky's yet? No, I have not.
JP GIASSON:Oh well, don't ever go. Yeah, I've seen. I've seen you standing in front.
SAM BYLER:Yeah, so, as far as on, on, on, like, like the shed side, the business side of it, um, are you, are you one of these that do you get happy where you're at, or are you constantly, are you constantly feeling like where can we go next, what can we do next? Do you do just sheds, do?
JP GIASSON:you offer other stuff? Oh, my goodness, no I. I'm the person, unfortunately, that just constantly wants to push the envelope. And more different designs we bring up. And then, of course, I learned from down dog kennels and chicken coops, horse shelters, horse barns and the gazebos. We introduced a wood shed combination, like a wood storage for burning wood, so half of it is a shed and half of it is a wood storage. Greenhouses, greenhouses, greenhouses, greenhouses a shed and half of it is a wood storage. Green houses.
JP GIASSON:Green houses, green houses, green houses a few years ago, and now everybody seems to have green houses.
SAM BYLER:So are your green houses wood frame or do you do metal frame? We do wood frame, you do wood frame, wood frame with the-.
JP GIASSON:With floors without floors. Most of them do come with floors. Okay, Some people have requested no floor floor and we do that because we do a lot of custom stuff We've been doing a lot of. We're just finishing up for a guy three different. He has three locations of ice cream serving sheds, you know, Okay, and just different things. I just like having always different stuff and challenging our builders to make their dreams come true. So it's fun, that's what I really enjoy. And we got into the poly furniture, which was big. Okay, you know that's been very, very popular. And then, of course, all the stuff that comes after the poly furniture, like the wishing wells and the windmills and the lighthouses and bird feeders Absolutely it just doesn't stop. So it does take up a lot of. It takes a lot of inventory and a big place to display all that.
SAM BYLER:So it's fun. Do you do that all at one place or you have multiple places? We have the five locations.
JP GIASSON:Five locations and all of them offer pretty much everything.
SAM BYLER:So do you have like a retail store that's part of it to where I can go inside and look at some of this stuff? Correct what?
JP GIASSON:we decided to do is we actually put a double wide, so there are 24 by 40, just like a double garage, and so that's like the showroom, I guess you could say. And then we have our office 24 by 40.
SAM BYLER:Yes, to put all the furniture and all that stuff and all that. You know, I'm just trying to make sure I got the size, yeah.
JP GIASSON:So it's two 12 by 40s and we just put them together. Okay, so we're in New York state. It's a little. You have to stay at 12 wide or else you need escort. So it's a little different. In Ontario we can go to just over 13 feet. So just to make things easier, we just made it 12 wide. The offices are bigger, but just for the displays of all the furniture.
SAM BYLER:Looking at more locations.
JP GIASSON:Not really right now. We have a sister company that will buy sheds from us. That is in Quebec and it's part of the Kodiak group, and so they'll sell our sheds for us up there.
SCOTT GIASSON:Okay.
JP GIASSON:So the other thing cause they they sell a lot of saunas. That's what they really got into. Um, so that's what we're probably going to expand into at some point this year is, uh, start carrying their sign, their saunas. So, yeah, hot tubs up there. We, uh, there's hot tubs. We sell the chilling, cold plunge stuff.
SAM BYLER:Isn't it cold enough up there already?
JP GIASSON:Just go jump in the lake. Well, when you get out of the sauna or what have you, you go into the cold plunge.
SAM BYLER:Yeah, now you took me back to Red Lake again and now I have nightmares because my buddy had a sauna up there and you'd go sit in there. You think it was hot, and then they put the water over the rocks and steam you, and then you were supposed to run out and jump in the snow. That's right, I didn't run out and jump oh, that's the best part, no, no it was um, you can.
SAM BYLER:You can get me in a sauna and you make it as hot as you want to, and I'll sit there with you until I pass out. I'm not jumping into ice water, I don't care if I've been in the sauna or not been in the sauna that's. That's not happening. We're not going there.
JP GIASSON:It's a really good feeling. It's very actually good for you.
SAM BYLER:Yeah, I know I've heard it's really good for me, but you know there's other stuff that's good for me too that I've decided not to do at this point in life that's right
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SAM BYLER:So, um, how do you sell a shed up there? Do you have marketing like we do. Um, scott, do you have you become involved in the marketing side of it? You said you're studying the business side. How do you market a shed in Canada? What do you do Other than having a huge lot with all this cool-looking stuff?
JP GIASSON:So, yes, we have teamed up with MyShed and just like Cedar Creek Structures, and so we have the website and their visualizer. Of course, we market as much as we can through Google and marketplace ads and even Kijiji. Word of mouth is good is our best seller, for sure, and our locations usually on busy, busy small highways type of thing, and yeah, that's how we usually market it. Scott. Scott sold and helped out when sales guys have to take some time off, but he hasn't gone and fully inside because he is in high demand at all locations. All the salespeople absolutely adore Scott and um, because he's really easy to get along with and you just ask him to do something and he does it. Um, whether it's repairs or you know, talking to a customer and fixing something, uh, for them. Uh, he's just, he's been really, really good.
SAM BYLER:And obviously he said he'd read he's. He's looking at a Peterbilt, he's not looking at a laptop.
SCOTT GIASSON:Yeah, exactly.
JP GIASSON:Yeah, exactly, he'd rather be out on the road, I'd rather be out.
SCOTT GIASSON:I mean I don't mind doing like the sales stuff and that stuff. Like, I mean, it's nice to kind of switch it up once in a while and do different things I mean learning different things as well but I'd rather kind of be the guy delivering the shed and stuff.
JP GIASSON:Yeah, it's a little bit more fun to me I just have to tell a little story when scott said, delivering your shed well, a few stories there, but uh, I won't get into them all. But when scott was 18 years old and he does still have a bit of a baby face and he was really young and young-looking and he would deliver the shed and he would pull in with, let's say, a 1224 or a 1230, a big shed and the people would be looking on either side of the trailer and our truck and saying, well, where's?
SCOTT GIASSON:the driver.
JP GIASSON:They could not believe it was him, and as soon as he would hear that, he would say oh, I'm going to get a tip. He would just swing that trailer in and boy the tips that he would make. I would deliver sheds and I didn't see anything.
SAM BYLER:I don't get tips either. So I understand that I have a son. He'll turn 32 this year. He looks younger than Scott, oh wow. And for years so he's been. He's actually been. Let me think a minute. He's been full-time music now for eight years, but he hauled sheds with me for about six years and he doesn't like driving. He definitely doesn't like backing up, but he would like a lot of times. He would just go with me. And he's a little skinny dude, you know he fits under sheds better than I do. So does Scott, and actually I'm still a firm believer that most guys would do better if they had a helper in the truck.
SAM BYLER:Yeah, you can only do so much by yourself. And if you're blocking sheds and you're underneath the shed and you need two more blocks, what are you going to do? You got to crawl back out, go get the block. If you're under there and you got another guy, they just sling another block in or whatever, loading strapping, all that stuff. And I'm of the opinion that I can get a block slinger cheaper than I can get a Class A driver. So why do I have my class A driver slinging blocks? Why do I have my class A driver doing anything besides driving. So we always did. We always had helpers in our truck, so he did. And there was many times they'd be like aren't you supposed to be in school? And he'd be like school, you mean like college.
JP GIASSON:I'm done with college.
SAM BYLER:It's like he's already passed that part and they're like oh, I'm sorry, so I get that. I'm sure you hear it a lot. What's your goal other than the Peterbilt?
SCOTT GIASSON:For Peterbilt. What's the goal? Maybe one day.
JP GIASSON:A barnaminium.
SCOTT GIASSON:That's exactly what he's been wanting.
JP GIASSON:That's that shop yeah, oh yeah, a shop. Yes, he wants a big burn-a-minium, a Woody shop. Yeah, yes.
SAM BYLER:Yeah you and I walk into a shop like Woody and we're like oh man, what we could do in here.
JP GIASSON:Yeah.
SAM BYLER:You need to come see me sometime. Mine ain, but I'm a little bit like you. I always wanted to have the shops and the trucks and I don't mind getting greasy. My joints don't like me anymore, so it's not as easy to do as it used to be, and in a business that we're in with like shed hauling and stuff involved, I mean, anytime you have something that involves mechanical in it, you're still better off doing it yourself if you can. Some people don't need to be. Just get that out of the way.
JP GIASSON:Then you let somebody else do their stuff. Yes, some people should be doing that, but to have that in-house.
SAM BYLER:How important is it? I mean, how valuable is that to you?
JP GIASSON:It's very valuable. Just before we left to come down here, there was two tires that needed to be changed and I think there was something other a light or something that wasn't working on the trailer and Bomi, you know he had that all switched up in half an hour 40 minutes. I couldn't believe he had done it so fast.
JP GIASSON:I said you're done already, so, and then we he's like well, yeah, we got to go to Woody's, that's exactly what happened and we left early yesterday morning and so it's great having it because again it's having all the parts, the spare parts. That's why I love coming down here because we visit Scenic View is our place that we usually go and see Chris and John and we get all our tires and rims or brakes. We picked up a hub yesterday and we bring all those parts back and we just like to have everything in stock. So not that we can't get it in Canada, but it's just nice to have because sometimes it's special to the shed trailers and we just like having it because we don't like to be down.
SCOTT GIASSON:Yeah.
JP GIASSON:I mean, we do have a spare shed trailer, but it gets used from time to time, but we want to always keep the trailers on the road and we so, scott, it's great having Scott and another guy, owen, at our place and they just, you know they'll fix the trailers and make sure they're always good to go and greased up. It's invaluable, uh, having it to be able to do it in-house, and sometimes we have to send it out and then you really see how much uh no joke.
SAM BYLER:You see how much it is. Um, sometimes I wonder if they just stand there and watch the clock go around too. It's. You know you can control that if you do it yourself. Yeah, um, huge difference. Um, anytime you can do that, it makes makes a world of difference, and you do. When you come down here, you. You just don't come down and hang out at one spot.
SAM BYLER:You get around we certainly do we were talking last night sitting there eating, and we mentioned three places and you'd been to all of them it's like you get everywhere. Um that's, that's just part of your drive, of what you do. You want all your options available.
JP GIASSON:I love the and down here everybody is so accommodating. There's so much manufacturing going down here and I thrive on that sort of thing and seeing the way people do things differently. I just really enjoy it. One was at a particular manufacturer down here and he has a chain drive system that pulls his sheds from section to section, and I implemented that in our plant.
SAM BYLER:Yes, oh yeah.
SCOTT GIASSON:So, you have that.
JP GIASSON:Yes, oh, yeah.
SCOTT GIASSON:Nice and they love it.
JP GIASSON:Yes, oh yeah, so you have that.
SCOTT GIASSON:Yes, oh yeah, nice, and they love it.
JP GIASSON:Just because the sheds can just move from section to section without any trouble. So I just love seeing those things and then bringing them up north, or what have you? And you know, like I said earlier, pushing the envelope, I guess.
SAM BYLER:So did you guys go through during the pandemic? Did you guys go through the same crazy growth spurt? Couldn't keep sheds on the lot. Everybody's buying everything. You had that whole same thing happen too.
JP GIASSON:Most definitely. It was unbelievable. We just couldn't produce them fast enough, yeah, and then, of course, people were. You know, our season's a lot shorter, you know it's hard a lot shorter.
JP GIASSON:True, you know it's hard to deliver sheds, usually in January, february, but you know we try to go to depends on how much snow falls in December, but we try to get to Christmas. So it's really only call it nine months, I guess, if you're lucky, 10. And you know, people were buying sheds october and we were lucky to get them delivered, and by christmas, you know. So it was uh, people and of course people, you know we tell them that you're 12 weeks out, but they didn't. You know they don't. Sometimes they don't believe you. So during the pandemic, it was uh, it was a huge growth spurt for us, um and um, uh, it was challenging at all at the same time, but fun like I really enjoyed it and I got to meet a lot of people through that, so it was got the pressure of getting sheds delivered.
SAM BYLER:It was more or less same.
SCOTT GIASSON:I mean it was kind of the same thing, but it was just like there's always sheds delivered. I mean you can get up.
SAM BYLER:Just get up and go all sheds.
SCOTT GIASSON:Exactly pretty much, and then just keep going every day pretty much. I mean, you could go nonstop then, but it was a good time.
JP GIASSON:Yeah, going from delivering three sheds a day to seven eight sheds in a day. Woody would come in because, like I said when he was bringing in those sheds, he would bring three loads in a day to us because it was so close. New York State was just so close to us.
JP GIASSON:So he would bring nine sheds and in our lots you would get stuck for space. So I would tell the people, like our salespeople, they would have to tell them that they had three days to take delivery or else we were having to move the sheds to a different lot to make room so it was that had a challenge, it had its challenges, but it's been, it was a good, good time and we, like it a little slower, like it is now did you run into the same material issues that some of the rest of us did as far as trying to find materials and most definitely
JP GIASSON:same thing yes, materials, and most definitely same thing. Yes, uh, and it was interesting because you were able to find different um different materials to use, um which we, which we liked, because we sell a lot of board and batten up in in our area because it's just it's cheaper. So it's a lot of pine, uh, the amish uh cut them the logs and then you know, like, like I say sometimes, it was a tree, uh a week ago, which also created problems because, it was green, it was still green and uh, which they still do.
JP GIASSON:They've been doing that for years Um but uh, so that had some challenges as well and uh, but at least when they're doing their two by fours and rough cut, people really enjoyed uh having, or really liked having, the true two by four yeah, like the one and a half by three and a half store bought. So, um, people do still come back and ask for their sheds to be all rough cut. They like the. They're finished. There's still a market there. Yes, not planed or anything.
SAM BYLER:We don't. We don't have those down by us. And I keep saying that somebody could come down there and make a killing by building rough cut sheds. I'm actually working with a guy in Tennessee trying to get them off the road to build sheds for me. Oh, yes, they have a whole. I don't know if it's just due to that area right there, but they have hemlock, yes, and I don know if it's just due to that area right there, but they have hemlock, yes.
SAM BYLER:And I don't know if y'all use hemlock or not, but down by us the bugs won't mess with it, correct? Um, and the our bumble bees, carpenter bees that drill through stuff. They won't drill in it, right? So I'm like, if you get off the road, I'll have a shop, build all your floors for you, so you don't have to do that. And then you just build me a rough cut boarding bat and shed on it. You know, right, and he's, I'm I'm still working on him, but I love seeing that in, you know, new york, and on up in the cool sheds. What's up, buddy? You ready for a party?
SAM BYLER:it is cool, I was telling him. The first time I met him was right here, in this same basement.
SCOTT GIASSON:You remember that? Yes.
SAM BYLER:He brought us all syrup to make us feel good.
SCOTT GIASSON:Yeah, I remember that.
SAM BYLER:Yes, Not like those other Canadian boys that you know. Buy it and bring it to us. Where do you see? So it's back to normal a little more, I guess. Yes, you feel like it is.
JP GIASSON:I mean, I think it is. I'm very comfortable where it is now. It's actually giving some breathing time in letting me explore a little bit of other options, stuff that's been sitting in my back pocket for a while.
SAM BYLER:There's always other stuff. There's always other stuff.
JP GIASSON:Yeah, so Does the man sleep at night.
SCOTT GIASSON:Like do you ever?
SAM BYLER:see him actually sleeping. Maybe sometimes I mean, I just pass out and I just wake up and he's already out, and he's already there.
SCOTT GIASSON:I mean, I'm assuming he's sleeping, but who knows?
SAM BYLER:Yes, it is funny. That would be a little hard to follow. Yeah, so it's back to a little more comfortable. Where do you see it going?
JP GIASSON:Wow, you mean for us, or?
SAM BYLER:the industry. Yeah, I mean for you and for the industry.
JP GIASSON:I think the industry will be there. I just see it for a long time. I believe that everybody needs a shed. People tend to buy a lot of stuff that they don't have the room to store, type of thing, so the storage sheds and just all the other animal structures that we have playhouses and so on but I really think it's still there and it's here to stay, and LP is always innovating. We really like the SmartSide LP products, I should say, and they're always pushing the envelope as well, and I think it's great as far as the industry is going. I think it'll always be thriving from everyone, from all the haulers, which are absolutely incredible people. I just since we got involved several years ago, I just can't believe on how amazing the hauler group is in the.
JP GIASSON:Brotherhood, and from the bashes and everything and to the right to the shed expos, because we do everything from building to the right to the uh shed expos. Uh cause we do everything from building to to the delivery.
JP GIASSON:So we get to go to, uh, so many of the uh, um, the expos and the meetings and so on, um, the, the just amazing people and I think, um, they're uh teaching other industries to to be the same. And you know competitors can help each other out, and that's what I really enjoy is when we've done it up in Canada, where you know, when there's another hauler that is in trouble, we go and help each other out, and it's happened several times an early one this spring and it's just awesome to see and we just love it.
SAM BYLER:So if you and the Goossens are both in Canada, y'all need help. You just run right across the street and help each other, right? Yes?
JP GIASSON:Well, we were talking about that earlier and the Goossens are actually further away from Pennsylvania to us in Ottawa than we are from Ottawa to London, ontario where they are, or Windsor.
SAM BYLER:So they're eight hours away and we're seven. Most people just don't. It doesn't register how big that place is up there. Yes, and then from there to Red Lake is even further. You might as well drive to Florida. Exactly when we went across Canada, we left from Ottawa.
JP GIASSON:When we went across Canada, we left from Ottawa and we drove to Manitoba and it was 24 hours of straight driving to get out of the province which is like the state. So it's incredible.
SAM BYLER:It's like the size of Texas. So, yeah, I'm with you. I feel like it's obviously. You know, we have to go back to work there. For a while it seemed like we were working just to stay away from work. Now we have to get back to work a little more, but the industry is solid. It's not going anywhere. We can figure out how to still market and how to still work together and there's plenty there for everybody. That's right. I like the fact that you brought up that you know you can work with the competition. It's it's all part of the big picture, do you? As far as on the Canada side of it, do you? Do you offer, like, can you offer finance to your customers?
JP GIASSON:Do you have rent?
SAM BYLER:to own. So what do you have available?
JP GIASSON:we, um, we do uh financing, so we do a lot of financing, um we we're talking actually with um the goosens, uh cedar creek structures. In regards to um finding an rto company, um, and we, a little bit of ofwork was done in Tennessee, not as much as to get anything launched, but we would like to have the RTO and understand it a little bit more. Scott and I like watching it on the haulers page.
SCOTT GIASSON:Oh yeah, and we had some pretty good stories last night.
JP GIASSON:Are you saying your life?
SAM BYLER:needs to be a little more exciting.
JP GIASSON:I mean, I don't know that exciting on some of the photos, but our videos or whatever.
SCOTT GIASSON:I mean make it a little bit more interesting, I guess.
JP GIASSON:Yeah, so we'll see about the RTO, but definitely financing, we do that. Okay, that's been very good. We do that. That's been very good. That's good Still percentage-wise, most of it's still cash sales. Well, yes, cash sales. Yes, it is cash sales, because I think you guys do the same thing, but we're allowed to charge a percentage. Of people use a credit card, so we do do that because we get charged. So that became legal in Canada just a year or two ago and now we most people honestly is debit or e-transfer.
SCOTT GIASSON:Oh, really, that's the biggest thing is e-transfer.
JP GIASSON:It's fantastic. Our drivers don't need to carry cash or checks. We don't, well, we don't like to take checks unless their bank drafts are certified. But you don't have to watch those. Yes, you're right. So we just love it. It's instantly in our account.
JP GIASSON:It's done and we really like that, and the same thing with the financing. If they just do it and finance is so cheap, so quick and easy for them, right at our shop, they, they do it within 60 seconds, they're approved and our drivers just do a couple of taps on the phone and boom, it's in our account, they have approval and off they go.
SAM BYLER:Yeah, yeah cool any, uh, anything you want to wrap up with like what, what, what do you want the shed industry to know about you guys?
JP GIASSON:I don't really know what we're any different. Everyone tends to think that Canada is super cold up there and we're very far away At the Pine Hill anniversary dinner.
JP GIASSON:We were talking with some guys from Tennessee and when they found out we were from Canada, with our accent, I said, well, how long did it take you to get here? And when he found out we were only six, seven hours away. He was like, wow, you're close, canada's that close. So it was interesting, but I don't know, uh, we're just uh, we just like to, um, build and sell a good quality product. Yeah, really, and and we learn a lot from, from everybody else well, you guys.
SAM BYLER:You guys fit the industry very well. Um, you got to be willing to get your hands dirty a little bit and you got to be willing to do what others don't want to do. And you guys do that well. Team players, you support the industry well. It's always fun to have you all around oh, we appreciate it, it's always fun to have you around and have good times. Woody's party here. We're going to have a blast here. We certainly are so yeah it's.
SAM BYLER:The picture doesn't just end in our own little territories, it's a big picture, right? And I actually feel like that helps us all maybe have a better feel of what the industry really is Sometimes. You know, for years I did it all on my. I was the only hauler around. I didn't have anybody to talk to. Now they talk on the phones. Are you on one of those deals too, where you talk to them all day long on the phones with each other and stuff? I was like, oh my word, some of these guys I know certain ones that cross the table there.
SAM BYLER:They sit on the phone for four hours. Right, you know it's like, but it makes you feel like you're part of the team, which means you're not alone. That's right, and that, to me, ultimately, is what I like to see in the fact that if we all work together, we'll get a lot more done. Even if I come into your area and I blow up and advertise like crazy, it ends up helping you. If you come into my area and you do that, it ends up helping me. We all work together. We're looking at putting in some big lots, you know, mega.
JP GIASSON:Mart stuff and people are like, aren't you?
SAM BYLER:you know you're supposed to be like this main guy of the shed industry that wants everybody to work together.
SAM BYLER:And I'm like, yeah, but I'm the first guy that says that competition is good for each other. That's right, you can still so. In my area of South Carolina I know for a fact where 53 lots are within 30 minutes of my house Wow, okay, there's sheds everywhere 13, 14, 15 manufacturers. I can't even keep up with them all anymore. I walk into the Waffle House and I asked the waitress. I said where do you put all your stuff? In your backyard, and she goes in a building and I'm like, well, where would you get that building? She goes Home Depot.
SCOTT GIASSON:Wow.
SAM BYLER:Every time Home Depot or Lowe's. That's not who I am. No, I want them to mention me or my competition. That's right, one of those 53 lots that Lowe's and Home Depot aren't counted of. Correct. You know, I don't have nothing against Lowe's and Home Depot, just get that out of the way. But you, lowe's and Home Depot, just get that out of the way. But you know, um and down at home, tough shed is who's actually on the Home Depot and Lowe's, the Home Depot lot? They're not saying tough shed, they're saying Home Depot they don't even know that correct.
SAM BYLER:So we have a long ways to go yet before we get the recognition up that we should have as to what we can do. And, uh, there's some really good stuff out there. You know my shed has good stuff. Um, there, there's so much stuff available now that it's it's cool to see. You know, I'm always griping about every time I go to the expo there's like 15 more you know everybody's doing it now, but right, that's good.
SAM BYLER:I'm glad there's more people doing it. You know there's more ways to get the word out than just the podcast. There's more ways to get the word out than just a podcast. There's more ways to get the word out than just a magazine. We would never put all our advertising in one spot. We did radio TV marketplace. We used to do Craigslist. Yes, you mentioned Kijiji, kijiji yes, I was like.
SCOTT GIASSON:oh, I remember that. I've heard of that.
SAM BYLER:I have not thought of that in a long time. That's right. But, why would you not use all the tools in your toolbox?
JP GIASSON:Use them all, especially if they're free. It's nothing to quickly advertise in there, so it's great. But no, you know, I just wanted to say also a big thank you here to Woody. When we talked about, or he mentioned that he was going to be having this 40th anniversary party, it was a no-brainer. It was going to be kind of a surprise that we were going to be coming down. But Woody caught me off guard one time when he was visiting, while delivering a load up to us.
SCOTT GIASSON:You could come up with a good story. No exactly.
JP GIASSON:Let the cat out of the bag and said we were coming down, but we wouldn't miss it at all.
SAM BYLER:Woody was just an integral. Oh, I would have been surprised if you wouldn't have been.
JP GIASSON:Yes, he's been just amazing to me and to my family, to Scott especially, and from all the sales lots, they just adore Woody, Even our Amish builders that we have. They even said to say hi and to tell him congratulations for 40 years. It's just amazing. They really enjoy him and he's a legend. That's what I tell people when they say you're going down to see a hauler no, he's the shed legend. That's what they tell people. When they say you're going down to see a hauler, no, he's the shed father. That's right.
SAM BYLER:He's at the top there and there's other guys around here. If they would just step up and tell their stories. There's other guys that have been here, that have done it that long, some of his best friends here that I know that he has. You know, picker, he talks about Picker a lot. Yes, as Picker, he talks about. Picker a lot. I would love to get Picker on a show, but it's up to everybody to decide where your comfort level is and what you want to do. Scott even said he doesn't talk.
SCOTT GIASSON:No, I don't talk much.
SAM BYLER:So here's your opportunity. You want to trash talk anybody in the hall.
SCOTT GIASSON:You got somebody out. Nobody, you got nothing. No trash talking.
SAM BYLER:Canadians can't deliver sheds better than.
SCOTT GIASSON:South Carolinians, or you know, like nothing, none of that.
SAM BYLER:I'm going to put you on the spot just a little bit and you can say you don't have anybody. But you get on the hauler page who are you looking for Like? Who shows who's like? Because I do it all the time. I get on the hauler page and I'm like, I hope so-and-so, you know, is behaving. Or because some of them stir up trouble. Some of them always put these. You know, abner's always stuck in the mud, right, you know?
SCOTT GIASSON:or in the juice, I don't know, anybody gets in you have any favorites, or I mean not really, but I'd choose a fellow Canadian, probably Alex, I always see him posting on there, so I'd just probably choose him.
JP GIASSON:That's fair enough. I like Abner. I really like Abner and Paul. He doesn't post as much as he used to Paul Stalnaker.
SAM BYLER:Stalnaker. Hey, good shout-out. That's a good call call out for him. He needs to get busy.
JP GIASSON:He's kind of been missing for a while, yeah, so and, of course, if ever, uh, chasing, chasing, whenever he's around so yeah those are.
SAM BYLER:You did kind of elude to the fact you like seeing all the drama from the pickup. So yeah. Yeah, we won't call those guys out, but we all know who they are A couple of twin brothers out in Texas somewhere that are always in trouble.
JP GIASSON:We love that. You know it's a lot different. You know, even we were talking last night about when for packing or for, you know, bulletproof vests and the cameras. You know we wouldn't even dream of having that up, honestly, in Canada. I mean, thank goodness to be honest with you, but maybe it would be if you're going to take someone's jet but they haven't paid for it. You never know, we might see that bad side of Canadians.
SAM BYLER:So yeah, I've been on both sides of those situations. I've been to where you know I try to de-escalate a situation and then there's other times when you know that's not going to happen and you got to step up and do something right. Um, so I can I'm a little bit of a in the middle on that. I guess I can see both sides, um, where a lot of people they get stuck oh man, you don't need none of that. What are you doing? I'm a little bit in the middle on that. I guess I can see both sides when a lot of people they get stuck oh man, you don't need none of that. What are you doing? You're just making it worse. Well, not always, sometimes it does. I can go both ways on that pretty quick. And I do understand if you show up unannounced and you decide to take off with somebody shed, with a bad attitude, somebody's going to throw something at you.
JP GIASSON:It's a given.
SAM BYLER:It is what it is. Anyway, it's been good. We're pretty much out of time, unless you want to do two episodes in one.
JP GIASSON:Scott's like no we don't need to do that. When you asked us this morning, it was a very surprise, but we're very happy that you did choose us.
SAM BYLER:I have to have my. You know I got to get you convinced by, you know, making sure you want to do it. But thanks for your willingness and thanks for everything you guys do, for always being willing to help, always showing up Like I don't have to ask you if you're coming to Texas, or if you're coming to texas or if you're coming to the next get together. You know, you guys, if you can, you're going to be there. I mean, it doesn't always work, but, um, it's, that's, that's part of what makes us all work together. Very well, and wish you the best, um, blessings on your business up there, your travels as you come back and forth, and, uh, keep doing what you're doing.
JP GIASSON:Thank you so much, sam it's been an absolute pleasure.
SAM BYLER:Cool. Anyway, you've had the chance to listen to another episode of the Sam Basseter Friday fun day and I hope you all had fun. Hey, this is Mo Lunsford in sunny Union Grove, north Carolina, and we want to say thank you to all the guests and listeners.